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View Poll Results: The best region of Spain - your vote?
Andalucia 0 0%
Granada 3 27.27%
Murcia 1 9.09%
Costa Blanca south 0 0%
Costa Blanca north 4 36.36%
Valencia 3 27.27%
Costa del Sol 0 0%
Costa de la Luz 0 0%
Costa Brava 0 0%
Costa Almeria 0 0%
Spanish Islands 0 0%
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have to agree with Toni, I think Valencia is a fantastic place to live. I’ve been in Spain a little over 4 years, 3 of those in Valencia. The city has changed so much in the last years with numerous restaurants, bars, shops, you name it being constructed what seem like every day. Like Toni says it’s got great beaches, and now of course due to the Americas Cup the port area has been completely refurbished and features some fantastic restaurants and nightspots. The old city itself is lovely, it retains a lot of its cultural heritage in its gothic and modern architecture, and has some great museums with numerous exhibitions. I am personally a big fan of El Carmen and its narrow streets and overhanging buildings, it’s very dynamic and has a great atmosphere. I myself live in Ruzafa which with the new facelift they are giving it should resemble something like west end London in the future. A great vantage point regards Valencia is that everywhere in the centre is within walking distance, long gone are the days of taking the metro if you live centrally.

I myself haven’t been to as many places as I would like in Spain, however Granada and Galicia are a few of my favourites. Barcelona is a great city, I was there for a year, but the house prices are outrageous (250% of the national average). I personally feel that we are going to see some big changes here in Valencia with the Formula 1 next year and the Americas Cup the following year. Watch this space!
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That is a definite for me next season, I have (I will) to go to see the F1 in Valencia, I have never been to an F1 race so I might taken a couple of days in Valencia for a break.

It does all seem to be happening in Valencia just recently, I wonder what I am missing?
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must sees - the Fallas festival in March, the port / marina on a race day of Americas Cup, the Grand prix, City of Arts and Sciences, Town hall square, Malvarossa Beach - night or day during summer!, boat ride on the L´Albufera, the tour bus - best way to get about and learn the history of this magnificent city, any of the many museums / cathedrals and towers, a mascleta, a firework display in the river Turia, the fountain display in the river Turia. I am sure there is much more I hve missed, perhaps Stewart can add...
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I also love the Canary Islands, especially Lanzarote. Being small islands they have a completely different feel to them from Mainland Spain. Haven't lived there though, just 3-4 holidays.

Would be interesting to hear from someone who has a good knowledge of the areas there.
I lived in Tenerife for 14 years, it is a great place if you have enough money to leave 2 or 3 times a year as with most small islands you get bored, i know every inch of every road in Tenerife, all the BBQ areas, inland restaurants and tourist attractions, i must admit in the early days(before EU) it was fun but after EU there became too many regulations etc. I was glad to leave in 2001 as at least here in Spain you can get in the car and drive more than 92km to somewhere!!
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I have a similar survey running.
Mine is slightly different in the respect that I polled tour operators as well and the objective was to determine which areas would recover first from the (now inevitable) Spanish Tourism and Real Estate Crisis.
The reason for polling tour operators as well is because tourism and real estate are connected in some respects and areas that are popular with toursist should have buoyant real estate values. Here "buoyancy" meaning the relative ability to float, whatever the level of the water.

To date my survey has attracted 9 participants and the SREF 10. The results are significantly similar. Webmaster has not quite selected the same areas but my results can easily be compared with his by consolidating his Andalucia, Granada and Costa del Sol with my C de S. He does not distinguish between Balearic and Canary Islands, which is unfortunate as they are really "worlds apart".

I allowed my pollers to place the areas in order and awarded points from 1 - 10. Areas not voted for received a 5 and my points are the average.
ToniW (for example) had a lot to say about Valencia but, because she was unable to comment on other areas (and was obviously biased), her vote could not be counted.

The consolidated results so far (SREF%) (Survey Average) (Consolidated Area) -

40% - 9.29 - Costa Blanca North Alicante to Denia
0% - 7.57 - Balearic Islands Mallorca and Menorca
0% - 7.29 - Costa Blanca South Alicante to San Pedro del Pinatar. including Torrevieja
20% - 6.86 - Costa del Sol Gibralta to Motril
10% - 6.71 - Costa Calida/ Almeria Motril to San Pedro del Pinatar
30% - 5.43 - Costa de Valencia Denia to Valencia
0% - 5.29 - Canary Islands Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, Fuertaventura and Tenerife
0% - 5.00 - Costa Brava Barcelona to the French Border
0% - 5.00 - Costa Dorada Vinaroz to Barcelona
0% - 5.00 - Costa de Azahar Valencia to Vinaroz

When the SREF poll is complete I intend to consolidate it with mine but adjust for duplications (with webmaster's permission of course and giving all contributors a link).

Please lets have some more response to the SERF survey. You might also like to look at the Spanish Tour Operators and Estate Agents Survey.

The Spanish Tourism Crisis: One of my contributors stated "but Spain has supposed to have enjoyed record tourist levels this year". Nothing could be further from the truth because the stats have been fatally distorted.
Unfortunate because this error could have a profound effect on what happens to the real estate sector.

The World Tourism Authority publish yearly stats. France has always been the world No.1 tourist destination and Spain No.2 for at least 10 years. In 1995 34.9 million toursits came to Spain and that increased to 58.5 million in 2006.
Now that looks great, an increase of 68%, and that is what the Spanish Tourist Authority likes to tell everyone. They are burying their heads in the sand and deceiving everyone.

Now France is not even really No.1, the pole position goes to USA and China is coming up fast to threaten Spain's No. 2 position. The reason is that they are counting tourist arrivals and not the total number of days that tourists stay.
Lots of travellers arrive at one side of France and leave on another the next day TWICE during a holiday somewhere in Europe - so that counts them right out.
Spain has a similar problem with the stats due to the trend for shorter, more frequent short-haul holidays.
If you say that the average stay in 1995 was 12 days and in 2006 it was only 8 days the numbers for millions of tourist days was 419 and 468 respectively.
This represents an increase of only 10.5%, whereas overall world tourism increased by 64% during the same period.
Spain has no real problem with tourism earnings as it remains in No.2 position behind the USA but it is the supply and demand for accommodation that they should be looking at because it has an adverse effect on real estate values.

Counting all tourists beds, in hotels, villas, apartments and aparthotels what has been the real increase in supply. 100%? 200%? Even more than this?
No real figures can ever be published because of the collosal clandestine renting industry but the cited fact that there are 3 - 4 million unoccupied properties gives a good general idea.
It was calculated that there were 400,000 properties (legal and illegal) available for tourist renting in 1997 and, in my opinion there are 1,200,000 right now.

I'll go for 300% - which is an absolute disaster for any estate agent who might wish to persuade clients to buy2rent.
Applying the previous figures and allowing for the fact that each non-resident Spanish property owner uses the property himself for 4 weeks the adjusted rental expectancy has fallen from 20 weeks in 1997 to 5.5 weeks in 2007.

Is it possible that the Spanish Authorities just don't understand? Not at all - they tell you one thing and believe something else.
That is exactly why there is now a desperate attempt, which is estimated to cost 800 million Euros each year.

Article: The Spanish Rental Subsidies.

Article: Spanish Real Estate Crash.

Article: The Spanish Tourism Crisis.

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Hi ToniW - and this also applies to other members!

You are obviously "over the moon" about Valencia (with good reason), have a lot of knowledge on the subject and are good at writing about it.
However, you are not doing yourself a lot of good as far as your Website is concerned.

You should think about writing an article, properly optimised, with links and anchor text linking to your site and publish it somewhere.
Then write about the article at SREF, with anchor text and links of course!

What would happen then is that Google and other SE's would latch on and index both your article and the SREF post - probably within 7 days.
This would give you 2 valuable incoming non-reciprocal links.

You could, of course, just write the article here but then that would only give you one link and not a lot of your clients read the SREF.
If you did it the way I suggested you would get two links. If the article was interesting, lots of people would read it and, hopefully, follow the link to your site.
You are currently No.5 for "valencia property" but you should be thinking about Properties for Sale in Valencia etc. (Did you notice what happened there?)

I would suggest that you publish the article on my Costa Blanca North Information Portal and I would be happy to help you with this.

- also anyone else who was interested!

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great idea Homefinder and I know you have mentioned this to me before. Here is a superb article
http://www.overseascafe.com/Overseas...1-de10d1b87ef4that has been written by a top Property Journalist who shares my love of the city. (don´t know how to do that link thing that everyone else does)
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Hi ToniW (and everyone)

I had look at the article, it is very good. I am almost tempted to sell up in Moraira and move up to the capital.
One problem though is that the writer has not used optimised anchor text in your link but just written your domain name.
It would be better like this Property for sale in Valencia

To place a correct link on SREF -
1. Decide and write the correct anchor text for the link.
2. Highlight this anchor text.
3. Click on the globe/link icon just below the white smiley icon and a popup appears. You would need to enable popups for SREF on your toolbar if necessary.
4. Open another instance of your Internet Browser and find the page to link to.
5. Copy and paste the full URL into the popup.

To make the best of an article like this -

Copy and past the text into MS Word to give you a base. Re-write the article in your own words and include lots of fresh content of your own. Past some pictures in. Put some relevent hyperlinks in. Do a personal or company bio at the bottom with the link(s) to include. Submit it to the North Costa Blanca Information Portal or anyone else who might like to publish it. Avoid duplications, to publish to two or more different article sites, change the article radically.

Before you write the article, think about the keywords e.g. valencia, property, properties, for sale. Include the keywords as often as you can in the text, never more that once in a single sentence. If you do this in such a way that it still looks REASONABLY readable then you won't be spamming.

Once the article is published, go to SERF (and other suitable forums) and write a post about the article. Include links both to the article and your site with properly optimised anchor text as described above.

What happens is that Google regularly crawls IMPORTANT REAL ESTATE FORUMS like the SREF (You owe me one there webmaster!).
It would see that the forum post referred to valencia, property, etc., follow the links to the article, your website and from the article to your website and see that these were also rich in imformation about valencia, property etc.

Then back at base the crawler would report this, all the links would be (hopefully) filed under the relevent keywords and you would get two incoming links to your site.

Go for it ToniW. Get your site scoring for more Valencia-related links but first go to WordTracker and find which ones you are missing out on, if any - I think you have got most covered!

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Hi Homefinder,

I have a few articles regards Valencia that i would like to mount on your webpage and link them to ourselves. I would appreciate some advice as i am quite new to this!

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Hi Stewart
Just e-mail me the text of an article and I'll upload it to the articles section of my site (as long as it is suitable - of course!).
The I will show you how to arrange 2 (or even more) links back to your site.
I have PM'ed you my e-mail address.

If anyone else is interested, just PM me with details of the unpublished article.

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